In the comments section, it's being played out:
- I see the strident arguments on both sides, I don't see any dishonesty.
I disagree. I see plenty of dishonesty from the so-called "pro-life" side. Dishonesty and self-deception.
Check out this video of "pro-life" activists who don't have an answer to the question "What kind of punishment should a woman who has an illegal abortion get?" Even after being active on the issue for two years, they hadn't taken the time to think that one out.
So the interviewer made the next logical assumption: "If there's no punishment for having an abortion, why should it be illegal?" Again, they couldn't seem to figure that out. They seemed to think that the stigma of illegality would be punishment enough. Either way, it seems they've let their emotions get the better of them, or worse, let someone else manipulate them into letting their emotions get the better of them. I'm sorry that I find it hard to take their stance seriously when after a few years they haven't given it any more thought than "it should be illegal". By not thinking it through, they're not being honest with themselves, and they're deceiving themselves about what the issue is really all about and about the attitudes of pro-choice people.
I don't know of any pro-choice person who is "pro abortion" in the sense that they view it as a
casual thing, like washing their hair: Sex, pregnancy, abortion, repeat. Nor do I know any pro-choicers who want to (figuratively) put a gun to people's heads and force others to get abortions. Yet that's what the "pro-life" crowd would have us believe. Maybe the "pro-life" crowd thinks it's a simple issue to make abortions illegal, but the truth is that it makes it a lot more complicated, because it gets the State involved.
So for the sake of fairness, I'll answer the question for them: If, as stated in the SD bill, a human life exists
from the moment of conception, then aborting it is murder, period. If it was pre-meditated, it's murder in the first degree, and should be treated as such, with all the penalties contained: life imprisonment or execution. And anyone who helped: doctor, husband, or friend, should be tried as abettors. No exceptions for rape, no exceptions for incest, no exceptions for health of the mother. A life is a life is a life, it's as simple as that.
As soon as a woman knows she is pregnant, she should be required to fill out some sort of "life certificate" verified by a doctor. If there is a miscarriage, a criminal investigation ought to be launched to ensure that the mother or someone else didn't do something to intentionally abort the fetus. She could also be found guilty of negligent homicide if she fails to care for it properly, or stays with an abusive husband.
Furthermore, all eggs fertilized during in-vitro fertilization must be brought to term, either in the mother's womb or inserted into a willing "carrier". A life is a life is a life. And these laws should apply equally to all pregnant women whether they be rich heiresses or those on welfare; black, white, or Latino:
everyone. Period. And if you're
really serious about "the sanctity of life", since there's no statute of limitations on murder, they ought to find, charge, and prosecute everyone who has ever had an abortion since Roe v. Wade, and investigate all miscarriages since then. I'm sure the police will be happy for the overtime.
Straw man arguments? You tell me: if this is about principle, if this is about crime and punishment, then we ought to be consistent. Because if that law was applied equally, I guarantee within a week they'd fight like hell to get Roe v. Wade back.
This is, of course, not to mention the hypocrisy of demanding, on the one hand, that a gametocyte of a few hundred cells or so is the equal of a human being, with all the implied rights, yet on the other decrying as inhuman a bunch of brown people who happen to be living on land we want for whatever reasons so as to kill them.
This is, of course, not to mention casually shrugging off the deaths of thousands in New Orleans because they were "too poor and too black" to get out.
This is, of course, not to mention the hypocrisy of abandoning children once they leave the womb in the name of economic ideology, or the delusion that people are simply going to give up sex.
This is, of course, not to mention the casual ignorance even of the laws of nature: look at the sign behind the two women about how "even animals" protect their young. Do they know that a pregnant rabbit, when faced with great stress, will sometimes absorb its unborn litter? Or that a male lion, on taking control of a pride, will kill off the cubs of its former rival so as to ensure the success of his own cubs? And some species don't care for their young at all. But I digress.
Of course, I keep forgetting that these are "good people", who don't consider that these laws should apply to them as well. They were written, after all, for the degenerate poor, not for
them. It will show the utter hypocrisy of these "good people" when they find their own ways of aborting their kids and hushing it up. Of course, hypocrisy is what "good people" are all about. After all, they're our betters, who are we to judge?